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March 17, 2011

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Pamela

Hi Keith...NT Wright stated that we are to be fully human the way that Jesus desires us to be, from the After You Beleive - Book Summary...not sure I agree, but this is why I have you to lean on and direct me when I am wrong...I have learned that when we are born again, we are one part human, one part Holy Spirit, and one part Supernatural!!!...I was fully human once - it didn't work; I wasn't in Jesus's shoes, and He wasn't in mine...and also, I hope I never become true to myself, instead, I prefer to work hard at being ture to my Lord. And yes, rules or non-rules are a huge issue, as I am learning. I am being taught that when we are born again, and if we are truly born again, the Holy Spirt enters into us...also, if we are truly born again, our love for the Lord is so deep that we strive not to sin, or as Andrew Wommack states, we become more holy and righteousess accidentally than we ever would on purpose; sinning in our lives lessen without us even thinking about it, that we tend to automatically stay away from the things "of" the world that can have a stronghold on us..we are set apart from the world, we are "in" the world, not "of" it. Wilmington's Guide to the Bible states,'people in the bar rooms have a common ground, they all drink and most are lonely. They fellowship with one another.How great it would be if Churches did the same.' I know that you had an issue with WWJD, stating that it is arrogant for anyone to assume what Jesus would do...for me, it meant He would stop before He sinned, and that is what I need to do - that worked for me since He is in me, and I am in Him...I know that we will never be perfect, atleast until we get to heaven, but there are ways we need to live for Him now, to let His Light shine before others..we are ambassadors, representatives. Yes, we can go to bars, to concerts where there is drinking and drugging, etc., and it doesn't mean that we will get drunk or high, but it does mean that it opens a port of entry for the devil's little demons to slide in and create havoc with our lives...yes, we will still go to heaven, but Jesus stated, "I have come that you might live and enjoy life to the full, in abundance, til it overflows"..I know he meant now, and not just in heaven. - I honestly do not want to be legalistic, and I know I can come across as that to some. I really take my faith seriously and truly am grateful what the Lord went through for a wretch like me. I know that there will be many false witnessess at the last day who think they are saved but are not...Mt. 7:21-23 scares me. Wow, I didn't mean to go on so long...hope I made some sense.... I do very much enjoy this site...God Bless

Keith McNamar

Hi Pam,

Thanks for taking the time to read the post.

On the issue of being fully human, I think my wording may have gotten confusing. Wright's point is that we were created in the image of God, fully human, but that sin has marred and broken that image of God in us. The work of new creation that God does for us in Christ is about making us into who we were always meant to be - fully human stewards of God's creation who would act as he would act in the world. So I think we're saying the same thing, maybe just thinking about it with different words.

The Spirit does indeed come to dwell in us at salvation, and that's the point Wright is making throughout. God's Spirit lives within us to do the work of shaping our character into one that is more reflective of God and his desires, and less reflective of our own desires. In fact, your quote from Andrew Womack sounded a lot like what I was reading in this book, just with different words. Wright talks about the way that developing character in God's image is like developing the ability to do things "by second nature" that we would not normally choose to do. We desire more of God's way and less of ours.

Last - the in the world and not of the world distinction is really important. We can't ever lose sight of the reality that Jesus came to seek and save the ones who were separated from relationship with God, so we have to be in the world. I think a lot of that honestly has to do with relationships we have with people and the ability we have to show them a life of faith, and to speak to them about Christ when the opportunity arises. Everyone approaches that differently, but I think the key is that we understand that Jesus has rescued and redeemed our lives, and we invite others to experience the same thing, but if we're completely separated from them, we won't have the chance to do that.

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